The Talk About Anything Page (Archive 4)
By [pseudonomen] • Jul 5th, 2008 • Category: Opinions and EditorialsI know that a lot of people have something they want to say, but are hesitant because they feel like it just doesn’t fit into any of the discussions here.
So here is a page where you can talk about anything and everything.
Have at it now, just remember the rules.
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You can always click the link from the archives and continue a discussion on this new page,
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July 6th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Kat, Nighthawk, Tech, [anyone?]:
Any idea what’s going on up town? (Why the west end of the bypass is closed)
July 6th, 2008 at 1:44 am
Humm??? The only thing that I know is that a limb went down on a powerline several hours ago and they said that it would take KU quite a while to fix it. Power is out to the area at Knapp and 2nd. That is the only thing I’ve heard so far.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:46 am
and the road is still closed. As far as the west end? Hummm? Maybe that is where all the 10-3 your traffic on the scanner is coming from? Something going on that we ain’t suppose to know?
July 6th, 2008 at 1:47 am
1:46a.m. They just said to advise units on scene that road on US60 can be opened back up, so this has to be what the 10-3 was about.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:48 am
Kinda like "Area 51", ain’t it? LOL
July 6th, 2008 at 1:54 am
They had the entire west end of the bypass shut down and parts of first street near the post office, blocked by mostly firetrucks with a cop car near the post office and what looked like a whole bunch of cop cars and safety vehicles near Advanced auto.
It looks like they might be opening the roads back up now.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:58 am
I guess it will remain one of the world’s greatest mysteries. Yes, it open now.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:02 am
Naah, The Morehead News will likely get an exclusive story on the event maybe even with pictures submitted by a firefighter or someone.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Oh, silly me. You’re right. There’s always a firefighter with a camera. Dang it! I hate competition! LOL
July 6th, 2008 at 2:12 am
What are you doing up this time of the morning? Everyone knows cats are noctural but I thought you were more of a dog lover?
July 6th, 2008 at 2:42 am
Waiting for someone who said they were going to try and get some pictures of the [Area 51] incident and maybe a story to go along with them.
Should have heard something by now. Maybe they was knocked off course by a stray tail wind.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:51 am
LOL. Could be. I feel like Jessica Fletcher in Murder She Wrote, trying to figure out this ‘mystery’. Oh well, ain’t gonna lose any sleep over it. I’m in a serious backgammon game with someone from Finland, so I’ve got other things to worry about.
Woopie’s now what is going on? Did ya hear that? "Respond down here, non-emergency". Hummm, and the plot thickens.
July 6th, 2008 at 3:19 am
Still not for sure what was going on last night to cause the shutdown of the west end of the bypass. Out of 100 pictures streaked and blurred with light 1 is presentable here.
Could be time for me to find a new good free camera man. One who will ask more questions.
At least I know the time the west end of the bypass was closed was roughly 11:pm last night and that it wasn’t reopened until roughly 1:45 am this morning.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:53 am
After reading a report from WKYT it sounds like they found bombs at the Morehead Post Office.
"A robot device picked up the packages and put them into a trailer. They were to later be detonated."
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/23766159.html
July 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Looks like CNN isn’t the only news source that amends news stories.
At least I have the original printout from the WKYT report that doesn’t say anything about
the boxes containing only "harmless tissues".
Well at least WKYT posted that the story was updated at 10:40 AM.
CNN news could take a lesson from them and start posting the time of revision.
*Last updated at 8:20 PM.
July 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
My first thought was that a truck had overturned causing a toxic spill but I soon ruled that out and started thinking that it had to be a gas leak or a bomb threat. But I didn’t want to take the guess at it here and accidentally misinform people.
So it turns out that all of that manpower was wasted on a box or two of "harmless tissue"?
July 6th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Ok, here is what I just learned from 2 sources about the ‘Bomb Threat’, last night. I was told it was FRUITCAKE with tissues of some kind and that Haz-Mat blew it up and there was fruitcake from here to Farmer’s and back.?????? Considering the fruitcakes I’ve encountered in my lifetime, it would take something powerful to blow them into pieces small even to chew. I was told to check out the COMMENTS section on Channel 27 news on the web.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Police Seize, Detonate Suspicious Packages In Rowan County
Posted: 3:41 PM Jul 6, 2008
Last Updated: 3:41 PM Jul 6, 2008
A | A | A There were some scary moments for some folks in Rowan County Saturday night after a suspicious looking box is found at a post office.
Someone mailing a letter Saturday night at the Morehead Post Office noticed something unusual around a mailbox.
That worried her, so she decided to call police.
“An officer responded and upon arriving, he found two packages of a suspicious nature, and he immediately contacted the U.S. Postal Inspector in Lexington,” says Lt. David Sexton, Morehead Police.
Police also called in Haz-Mat crews and the Kentucky State Police Bomb Squad.
Streets around the post office were blocked off for four hours as a precaution.
The packages were later detonated.
That’s when police found out there was only fruitcake and tissue inside.
No word on where the packages came from.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
The previous post came from channel 27, whom I do not personally endorse.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Personally, I think the fruitcake part is a bit ‘nutty’, pardon the pun.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Also doesn’t the postoffice have camera’s in the lobby? Maybe they could see who left it/them there.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Endorse them or not, they were the first to verify the alleged bomb scare,
and the only site that I could find to link to.
It’s possible that channel 18 had called and was given the standard line
that "nothing is going on"… because people who live near the post office
didn’t know what was going on — least not the people who I spoke with.
Then again, those people could have been sight seers camped out on
the front porches of nearby houses, which would have to be the case if
the comments from "Anonymous" over at WKYT hold any water.
July 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Maybe they should reword the story from:
"There were some scary moments for some folks in Rowan County Saturday night.."
To:
"There were some scary moments for a few people (mostly officials) in Rowan County…"
And perhaps they should have written:
"Officials were afraid that citizens would find out…"
Do they need a cover-up to cover-up a cover-up with?
July 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Of course the trickle down effect has trickled down from feds
on how to cover up the coverups of the coverups.
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=119614;title=APFN
IF something really serious happens we will likely have to find out
what happened from [St. Peter] the gate keeper of spiritual paradise (or ghenna).
http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2008/07/in-praise-of-potent-pot.html
There’s only been one drug success story in US history, tobacco, by far the most deadly and one of the most addictive drugs. Almost half the users quit because of regulation, accurate information and medical treatment. No one went to jail and no one got killed.
Not one person in history has ever died (directly)
from marijuana; 1997 annual American deaths caused by drugs:
Tobacco …………………… 400,000
Alcohol …………………… 100,000
All Legal Drugs ………. 20,000
All Illegal Drugs ……. 15,000
Caffeine ………………………. 2,000
Aspirin ……………………………. 500
Marijuana …………………………. 0
Source: United States Government,
National Institute On Drug Abuse,
Bureau Of Mortality Statistics.
Marijuana And Hemp The Untold Story
The right; to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and many others have been denied to millions of Americans in the name of the drug war.
July 7th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
WKYT 27 has some kind of ‘inside’ pull with those in the ‘know’ around here and emergency services speaks with them but not channel 18. I think it’s just a bias deal. Doesn’t matter, channel 18 has gotten plenty of First on the scene and exclusives, that’s my goal in life at the moment! LOL
July 8th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Connections goes back at least to ex-coach Wayne Martin and his connection to MSU, but there is at least one reporter from here that I know of that still lives here and reports for 56, 57 and 27 mostly. If you watch you’ll figger out who it is. In this case that is all it may be not some double super secret handshake thing. "Authorities" have always played favorites with media, whatz new? I don’t like it but thats the way it is, the courts have let stand rulings that even say they can lie to us, no big deal. I am just waiting on some big pockets outlet to lie /slander me and bingo, better than the lotto! SUE SUE SUE!~ LOL?
July 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Well what ever become of the alleged bomb at the post office?
I heard everything from they blew up a box of toilet paper to kleenx to fruitcake.
I know there’s a couple of news reports both linked and posted up above, but
does anyone know the actual facts about what was in the boxes?
You know, If they "exploded" MY mail, I would seek criminal charges against them
and seek civil remedies too.
Is it true that they didn’t get the warrant signed until after they tampered with the mail?
July 14th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Ok that reporter for 27/56/57 I mentioned above has moved on to other things I found out by chance over the weekend, never mind, but he might still live here and listen to the scanner OR
WKYT might have dedicated scanner antennas and interns listening for such traffic as in good old fashioned reporting uh ambulance chasing strategic news rooms would/did.
July 14th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Just seen on 18 news:
THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING AFTER THE AMISH.
(For not displaying the orange triangle on the rear of buggies)
So much for Freedom Of Religion…
July 15th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Imagine That! What good does it do to have a Fire Hydrant beside a school
if the thing don’t work?!?!?!
Just heard some units from a couple of Fire Departments (Morehead & Elliotville)
leaving from a local school. Said they had contacted the Morehead Plant Board
and were advised the Hydrant would be put back in service tomorrow.
I think this was at Rodburn Elementary, but a priority channel kicked in during the
transmitted message partially knocking out my reception of the exact location.
Maybe Kat heard it too.
But I have to question the reasoning for having Fire Hydrants that doesn’t work.
Could it be that they are just there for the insurance man to look at or something?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:08 am
There is no such thing as a Fire Hydrant that doesn’t work nighthawk! Just ask a dog! LOL
Water may not always come out but water may go in! LOL
July 16th, 2008 at 2:56 am
Well I suppose it could work to lower insurance rates too, but that doesn’t mean
that the pumpers can get water from it…
Remember the trailer fire on Clearfield Hill a couple of years back?
There was a fire hydrant about 600 foot away from the trailer, but the water company
had it shut off — causing fire fighters to have and set up a dump tank and spill multiple
tankers full of water into it (the dump tank) to supply the pumper with water.
I hear that the Magistrate tore somebody a new one over that ordeal, and in my humble
opinion, whom ever was responsible for having that hydrant disconnected, deserved a
good chewing out.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
did the link to this get removed from the front page?
I found it in Opinions and Editorials link in
box lower right of home page
July 18th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
It was in "Site Stuff", but appears to have been overwritten by an "Opinions and Editorials"
type article, So I assume that since this thread is sort’a opinion based too, it seems to have
been bumped up into the "Opinions and Editorials" column.
Only one space in those columns for one reason or another.
Firefox displays it front and center just beneath the Scanner Scoop.
It can be difficult to find with Internet Explorer and maybe a few other browsers.
The link is still the same. You could bookmark or add it to your favorites, and even if it’s
archived, there has always been a link to the next page in line at the bottom of the archives.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
That should fix it. It’s archived over in Site Stuff too now.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
The old layout allowed for more headlines in each category box.
I will create a new category for this page if site permissions allow me to.
July 18th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I tried to create category "Anything Page" and the following message appeared:
"You do not have permission to do that."
July 18th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I just overlooked it I guess, some posts stray off topic and I try to post stuff here that is a unrelated to threads or if another thread inspires a tangential issue this thread is handy to avoid junking up a specific topical thread. anywho
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:32 pm
By Ralph ForbesHow
did we get from a “profitable” war against Iraq to a $6 trillion
swirling black hole that threatens to flush the United States and the
world down the drain? Follow the dollars. Follow the lies:One
month before the invasion of Iraq, Spanish Prime Minister José María
Aznar met with President Bush in Crawford, Tex., Feb. 22, 2003, to beg
him, on behalf of European leaders, not to start a war.The
Egyptians made a deal with Saddam Hussein to go into exile to avoid a
devastating war against Iraq. Saddam wanted a payment of $1 billion
and, for insurance, to keep all the information about how the neocons
had supplied him with his weapons of mass destruction. Bush quipped
that sending Saddam into exile would save the American people $50
billion for the costs of the war.That
“$50 billion” was a lie. White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey
was fired in 2002 for daring to predict the war might cost $200 billion.Paul
Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of defense, testified to Congress on March
27, 2003 that oil revenue from Iraq would pay for the Iraq war. “The
oil revenues of [Iraq] could bring between $50 billion and $100 billion
over the course of the next two or three years,” he said. “We are
dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction
and relatively soon.”When
Wolfowitz and the neocons were peddling the tale that Iraqi oil would
lower the price of gas, oil was selling for around $20-25 per barrel.Five
years after “mission accomplished,” it is over $100 per barrel and
gasoline is $3.50 and more per gallon and rising—as the value of the
dollar plummets.
This is great for oil companies reaping record billion dollar profits.
The House of Saud and the House of Bush, along with the contractors
(and of course Israel), are the only beneficiaries of this war.The
Congressional Budget Office estimate for the cost of the war so far is
$500 billion. That figure appeared unbelievably low to Joseph Stiglitz,
Nobel Memorial Prize winner for economics and the chief economist at
the World Bank, who is critical of globalism. Linda Bilmes, lecturer in
public policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard Univ.,
agreed. In 2005 they researched the facts and published a report in
January 2006 showing the true cost for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
was between $1 trillion and $2 trillion.An
outraged Bush blasted Stiglitz and Bilmes, sneering, “We don’t go to
war on the calculations of green-eye-shaded accountants or economists.”Another
CBO report put war costs at $604 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that
$604 billion is higher than the costs of the Korea and Vietnam
conflicts, according to the Washington-based Center for Strategic and
Budgetary Assessments (AFP, March 24, 2008).Sti
glitz and Bilmes discovered, after months of chasing often
deliberately obscured accounts, Bush’s Iraqi-Afghan adventure will cost
America—just America—a conservatively estimated $3 trillion. But don’t
forget, it will cost the rest of the world at least another $3
trillion.These findings are published in a 192-page exposé, The Three Trillion Dollar War: The True Cost of the Iraq Conflict, available at libraries and bookstores. Freelance writer Ralph Forbes can be contacted via email at justrite@ipa.netWinner of the 2001 Nobel Prize in Economics, Joseph E. Stiglitz of Columbia University is the author of Making Globalization Work and Globalization and Its Discontents. Linda J. Bilmes,
a professor of public finance at Harvard’s Kennedy School of
Government, is a former assistant secretary for management and budget
in the U.S. Department of Commerce.
July 22nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Mexican War and Lincoln’s War directly compair to Desert Storm and the War on Terror:
You might say ‘how’?
The Mexicn war was over in a year and produced all sorts of
hometown heros and no doubt some embellishments from those
who saw some action. Grandads and parents and whole towns were
ready to give a big send off to their next generation of future heros
fighting for the cause of their respective countries(states, or the union)
Desert Storm was a quick "victory" against a provolked invader (Fort Sumter
was occupied without authorization / orders by northern troops)
Many saw the War between the states as a quick war with little blood shed on
either side, the 2003 invation of Iraq was declared "mission accomplished"
how many years and billions ago?
The "civil war" lasted really well past Lee’s surrender, some say it still had
bad effects even today for the userped centralised power structure of D.C. and
the military - industrial complex.
Regeme change in Irag will have lasting affects for as long as people breath
in or ingest depleted uranium dust DU; 30 thousand years 1/2 life
when will our grand young en’s pay off that lawsuit?
Pride commeth befor a fall eh?
Sadaam should have been exiled, the Shaw of Iran was; turnabout be
fair play eh?
SO, let Fox news declare victory and lets get em out and treated
for PTSD and D.U. eposure and sand fleas and what ever other
microscope bugs thay is bringing back wit them.
They got the oil contracts, get the grunts out, 9months 16months,
or 4 months, suprise us !
The Afgani still need some help, maybe, so let some volunteer to
go there and send the ones home that want to go.
What is the point at this point.
Sadamm was proped up by D.C. and set up by D.C.
who don’t know that by now? Good thing they blew up most
of the evidence in Desert Storm eh?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 am
Understanding Money(Credit) note: everywhere the m-word is used substitute ‘credit’ and this becomes a more accurate artical. (also substitute "discharge" for pay and buy in a system of credit-blips as a medium of exchange ) . . . The creation of money(credit) in the American society is intensely political(Morehead National and other Local banques are no exception). Most of the money(credit) in circulation never gets circulated in the paper form, but is born on the ledger of a banking institution, and remains forever in cyberspace. Institutions may exchange these digits, and more may be created by the appropriate agencies, but ultimately, the selection of who shall have money, and who shall not have money, is directly tied to the power-levers of the society, with nothing to do with merit. This doesn’t mean that a system of capital could not be devised that did reward merit, and innovation; it only means that our current banking system does not. . . . http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/news/nws77.htm To be a MEDIUM of exchange in our dejure constitutional Republic the medium must have SUBSTANCE of VALUE (which is biblical of course); gold and silver have values as substances, the scrip ‘paper’ is made from cotton rags some of which could include soiled underware, while it is great to reuse stuff and is better than recycling, this adds a new aspect to the filthy lucre concept, yuk. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed (Perish) for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.(now that is a bad scene ) 7: As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame. (we need a Jonah of sorts) Isaiah 1:22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water: 23: Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves (the silver has long ago turned to dross c. 1965 the judgement and destruction is the next part of the process{cycle}; the hope is to be spared this ‘raptured’ eh?
What be if that be yet another strong delusion and like the temple in Yeshua’s time the warnings be rejected, do we have a "this generation" that shall not pass away before a end of the world/age as in 70AD????????
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 am
Well I could have said it better meself but " there it is"
so bravo.
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 am
http://cafr1.com/transcript/Trans.html Now, when you look at stocks, as I mentioned, New Jersey State Government I saw, had $70 billion in common stock ownership. That floored me. I never even thought about New Jersey as a state owning $70 billion in stocks. Composite totals city, county, state and federal on stock ownership, equates to approximately $32 trillion. That’s over 53% of the entire open interest of all issued stocks from all exchanges is owned by composite government sources. You won’t have one city or county or state owning a phenomenal base in one stock, but you’ll have thousands of the different cities, counties and states owning the composite totals. They own over 51 percent. So, when you look at individual corporations, Xerox Corporation, IBM, AT&T the primary owners are composite government funds, and they’ll be listed as institutional funds - when you see the word "institutional funds" - that is government monies(((credit))), in most cases. So, when you have a supposed public corporation - say, 72% owned by composite government funds, I wouldn’t call that a public corporation; I would say that’s a government operation. Xerox is approximately 72% owned by composite government funds; AT&T is up around 42%, so on and so on… But the bottom line here is, when I learned this, this was a revelation that changed my life. Up until this point, when the comprehension finally dawned on me, prior to that, I always thought government was maybe 5% of the GNP of this country and this was a free-market economy, and I learned I was wrong. ( this kinda crap has been called fashism but is really oligarchy cabal con-spir-acy )(fashia being the rods used to mete out discipline in roman judicial venues, as depicted on the old "mercury" dimes ) lets "whale" away some fiscal discipline on these greedy userpers and do NOT let them raise taxes since there is all these assets floating around. Socialism? heck this is Mussilini’s corportism that the "greatest generation" was supposed to have dealt with if that wasn’t just another set up scam it is starting to look like eh pearl harbor fans (investigated 6ways from sunday but 911 wasn’t?)
July 23rd, 2008 at 1:00 am
some politico complained today about the deal on Fanny and
Freddie government buy out saying it is socialism and the people
do not want socialism, well in the deal the government/feds would get
stocks in both Fanny may and Freddie Mac, me thinks they already
had stock and they are saving the value of what they had and getting
more !!! talk about corportism and market manipulation, they
know some of us are on to the flim flam game and I wonder if
"they " will crash everything to hide the scam and defuse a revolution?
July 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Haven’t read it all:
"""What was created when a collection of existing steel companies were merged into the United States Steel Corporation by the elder J. P. Morgan other than a profitable opportunity to issue a vast quantity of watered stock? The constituent companies marched on under the triumphal arch of the new stock issue. The same is true of General Motors and many others"""
Thot I would share a link to a book that looks verrrrrry interesting
supposedly does not consider itself leftest propaganda?
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/030304lberg/030304ch15.html
found it while looking for references to "THE UNIT" episode from last September that
blerted out "6 families control the country" right before the writers strike shut down
Operation Hollywood. The Unit has been seen as a very pro .mil show and
is written by a Delta Force guy who supposedly does not filter out much in this dramatized updated treatment of the types of black ops and such that he was involved in. Funny thing is because of the strike this episode got re-run about 3times on
the General Electric .mil industrial complex network CBS?
Feeling manipulated yet?
www
.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×1907940
July 24th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
THE RICH AND THE SUPER-RICH
A Study in the Power of Money Today(1968)
BY FERDINAND LUNDBERG
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/030304lberg/030304toc.html
July 28th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
"that is government monies(((credit)))" — I would disagree and say "(((debt)))" except that they have written foreclosure techniques into the corporate (commercial) government laws.
This is to the extent that even though the big corporations and big pharma and even the big factory farms have become credits to the government (or their monies if you will) as they can foreclose on (take) these corporations and assets.
BUT the big corporations also serve as a means for the FEDRES(INC) to continue backing the dollar with the promise of slavery of the people.
"Will work for coins only" comes to mind (at least I could melt them down and make tools or something…) even though todays coinage isn’t constitutionally minted money, it is metal base.
I mean what value is paper (bills) but expensive scratch pads or doodle sheets?
Did you ever wonder why paper money is called bills?
Like dollar bill, five dollar bill, hundred dollar bill (get where i’m going?) :
They are notes of debt — We have been tricked into becoming slaves who work for debt,
most of us born into slavery;
Remember that T.E. Ford Song "Move 16 tons and what-da-ya get, Another day older and deeper in debt…" and the line "[I] owe [my] soul to the company store…" — a hit song back in the day when people still realized that the new paper (FEDRES) so-called money is worthless paper… unless you are going to use it as hard earned fuel or tinder to keep warm with.
BUT even more into the meaning of that song is that the government has become the "company store" — a corporation. Many corporations under a corporate trade union.
See: Interstate Commerce, IRS, etc…
BATF is (by the way) a private police agency controlled by the privately (or foreign) owned IRS. Once traceable in older versions of the USC (before the books were ordered removed from library archives and destroyed). Did any dumpster-divers salvage any of those?
Of course the Secret Service tracks down counterfeiters, but ignore the FEDRES BILLS!
And since they provide protection to the President, Is he under control of the privately owned Federal Reserve???
Ironically President Kennedy was gunned down just after secret service agents were ordered to stand back from his car (see the videos and pay attention) and his head was served up on a silver platter (the half dollar). This was just days after he made an executive order calling for United States Notes to be printed, in an effort to move away from the FEDRES.
As a side note:
I once knew a teacher who would keep a copy of the old history books when the new ones were issued and would note the subtle changes made in the books over the years.
It would be nice to see that collection of books and notes of the changes again.
The CAFR might be hard to understand for many, and might not seem really important, but it is a really important subject for people to study up on.
July 28th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
yep, you can punch a hole in a quarter or a nickle and sell it as a washer for
the same size/weight it costs more than a nickle or if brass or zinc more than the
quarter "sandwich" coin.
In the "Law" "Current coin" covers all circulating coins between a penny and a
quarter dollar, leaving the 50cent piece undefined except as "Lawful money"
so to are the various dollar coins considered "Lawful Money" and also
"Legal Tender" I suppose since they are not "current coin"
It looks like the argument could be made that one could actually
"pay" for something under current statuets with 50cent pieces or sack of
jew something or Suzannne B. Anthony or Ike clad "Dollars" and they should
be accepted for value of a actual Dollar not a Fed reserve non-note.
IN Los Vegas last year no one reported on the 119count not guilty verdict of
contractors "paid" with silver and gold bullion coins from the U.S. mint, they
did not pay "income" taxes as the IRS could not show any regulations that covered
such a transaction other than the face value of the coins,
SO just to give an example
IF you were paid 500 DOLLARS in 10 gold pieces it is under the
amount where you have to file a "income tax" form
IF you can go sell those for $2000 apiece that is twenty Thousand Federal Reserve non-Notes and the IRS really has no leg to stand on since you were paid
under contract for your time not as a stock dividend or "income" from whatever
source" we say even your labor.
Anyway look up the one and only Las Vegas Review Journal report on it
days and days later and wonder of wonders why Larry King or Oprah or
Montel or SOMEBODY did not do a report on something that affects
EVERY dang working stiff in the countyr.
CONTROLLED MEDIA dddeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(and people get mad at me for taking time talking aabout this stuff.
In church they tell you you will be persecuted for telling the truth.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
The reason they get mad might be because the truth scares them.
OR maybe they are just too far gone –brainwashed–
The truth is out there IF they care enough to do the research.
BUT unfortunately most will only whine about current conditions,
AND then BASH us when we try and point them towards the truth.
Remember when I posted about graven images?
I was categorized with the likes of a socialist for speaking out against a socialist agenda.
July 28th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled
"The Communist Manifesto".
Marxism’s basic theme is that the proletariat (the "exploited" working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the "bourgeoisie" (the middle class) and overthrow the system of "capitalism."
After a brief period of rule by "the dictatorship of the proletariat" the classless society of communism would emerge.
In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!!
Our "elected representatives" have passed laws implementing these anti-freedom concepts. The communists have achieved a de facto FEDERAL SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT in America.
Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties!
First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning - Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled "zoning" to be "constitutional" in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)
Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)
Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal "estate tax" laws taxing the "privilege" of transfering property after death and gift before death.)
Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. (The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical - "rebels" - of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.)
Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.)
Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. (Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.)
Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 — farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.)
Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture. (First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set "minimum wage" scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.)
Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. (Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating "conglomerates.")
Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800’s. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930’s. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia’s Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education’s specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, "head-start" programs, textbooks, library books.
http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html
July 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Any follow-up info or disposition about the male with a machete on Clack Mountain?
Was he arrested, or told to put his knife away, or what?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Hey what happend with the wreck at 32 & open fork?
One copter evac and 2 signal 9 to st. Scare? that is
all I heard, it happened about 4-4:3opm -ish from what I
heard?
July 29th, 2008 at 3:14 am
Some truth is coming out on “police (policy) powers” concerning the chief “executive”. Much of this non constitutional power and authority goes back to the War of Aggression, 1861 onward and its “emergency” sessions of Congress. People are becoming a bit more familiar with the 14th amendment and why it was even brought into existence. Here is a quote from another article and must see videos from C Span. We are revisiting our American history classes trying to set the record straight. The men testifying in these various clips are soldiers without guns addressing the grievances. At least, no guns yet. The reason the second amendment is present is to protect us from constitutional tyrants. It is there for us to protect a “right” to hunt down tyrants, not food.
Let’s see how our ‘free press’ is working on July 26, 2008, the day after C-Span covered the House Judiciary Committee’s hearings on impeachment.
Please spread the news about this ‘news’ blackout to all of your contacts. It may be the only way that many will learn about the impeachment hearings and the dangers which have resulted from allowing a cartel to swallow up all but a few media outlets in our country.
A couple of clips on testimony concerning powers of the executive. Not only has greatly Bushy misused this office, it has been going on for years. You can’t blame Dubbya. The poor soul is being used by his daddy and et al.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80IphtHrFzg
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.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAFozFn4kU
July 29th, 2008 at 3:18 am
You’re only as sane
as the information you receive
The US has - hands down - the most propagandized population in the world.
Even people in North Korea have a firmer grasp of reality.
Why is this so?
It’s the news media. They’ve mastered the art of reporting nothing and making it seem like it’s something.
They’re also very creative and convincing first class liars. Kind of like Bush Republicans.
What’s the solution?
Scott Ritter has an answer and thanks to the Internet, more and more people in the US are breaking free of the info-lock.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/383.html
July 30th, 2008 at 12:42 am
City Police Accepting Gratuities From WalMart?
According to an article in The Morehead News;
Seven taser guns were bought with "…a $5,000 community grant from the Morehead Wal-Mart and money from this past year’s police department budget.".
Now I’m not a lawyer, and don’t intend to attempt the practice of law here,
BUT; I’d like for you to look over the Letter Of The Law and decide for yourself
if this utilization of money granted (given) by a corporation (artificial person)
being utilized by Peace Officers (Morehead Police Dept), Constitutes a violation of Law.
Here is the Letter Of The Law followed by my comment below:
KRS 61.310 Compensation of peace officers — Other employment — Gratuities — Penalties.
(1) "Peace officer," as used in this section, means any sheriff, deputy sheriff, constable, deputy constable, patrol or any other peace officer or deputy peace officer except those appointed pursuant to KRS 61.360 or 277.270 and those employed by a board of education.
(2) A peace officer shall not receive any compensation or remuneration, directly or indirectly, from any person for the performance of any service or duty, except that he or she may be compensated for employment authorized by subsection (4) of this section and accept donations in accordance with subsection (8) of this section. Any peace officer who violates this subsection may be removed from office, under the provisions of KRS 63.170.
(3) (a) Peace officers shall receive for the performance of their services and duties only such compensation or remuneration as is regularly provided and paid out of the public funds to the amount and in the manner provided by law, except that they may be compensated from private funds for employment authorized by subsection (4) of this section and accept donations of private funds in accordance with subsection (8) of this section.
(b) Except as set out in subsection (8) of this section, donations made by persons to any governmental unit or officer thereof do not constitute public funds within the meaning of this subsection.
(4) A peace officer may, while in office, and during hours other than regular or scheduled duty hours, act in any private employment as guard or watchman or in any other similar or private employment. However, he may not participate directly or indirectly, in any labor dispute during his off-duty hours. Any peace officer who violates this subsection may be removed from office, under the provisions of KRS 63.170.
(5) No principal peace officer shall appoint or continue the appointment of any deputy contrary to the provisions of this section. When it appears by the affidavit of two (2) citizens, taxpayers of the county, filed with any principal peace officer, that there is reasonable cause to believe that any of his deputies are receiving compensation from private sources contrary to the provisions of this section, the peace officer shall forthwith investigate the charges contained in the affidavit, and if he finds the charges are true he shall forthwith remove any such deputy from office. Failure to do so shall constitute neglect of duty on the part of the principal peace officer, and he may be removed from office under the provisions of KRS 63.170.
(6) In addition to being subject to removal from office, any peace officer who violates any of the provisions of this section shall be fined not less than five hundred dollars ($500) nor more than five thousand dollars ($5,000), or confined in jail for not more than one (1) year, or both.
(7) Except as provided in subsection (8) of this section and KRS 61.360 and 277.280, any person who directly or indirectly pays or contributes or causes to be paid or contributed any money or other thing of value to any peace officer or to any
governmental unit or officer thereof, either as a gift or donation for the performance of any public duty shall be fined not less than five hundred ($500) nor more than five thousand dollars ($5,000).
(8) (a) A sheriff may accept a donation of money or goods to be used for the public purposes of his or her office if the sheriff establishes a register for recording all donations that includes, at a minimum:
1. The name and address of the donor;
2. A general description of the donation;
3. The date of acceptance of the donation;
4. The monetary amount of the donation, or its estimated worth; and
5. Any purpose for which the donation is given.
The register shall constitute a public record, be subject to the provisions of KRS 61.870 to 61.884, and be made available to the public for inspection in the sheriff’s office during regular business hours.
(b) Any donation to a sheriff shall only be used to further the public purpose of the office and
shall not be used for the private benefit of the sheriff, his or her deputies, or other
employees of the office.
(c) All donations made in accordance with this subsection shall be expended and audited in
the same manner as other funds or property of the sheriff’s office.
(d) For the purposes of this section and KRS 521.060, a donation shall not be construed to
mean a campaign contribution made to the sheriff for his or her reelection.
Effective: June 20, 2005
History: Amended 2005 Ky. Acts ch. 103, sec. 1, effective June 20, 2005. — Amended 1968 Ky. Acts ch. 15, sec. 1. — Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky. Stat. secs. 3766a-15 to 3766a-17, 3766a-19 to 3766a-22, 3766a-24.
Legislative Research Commission Note (1987). A technical correction has been made in this section by the Reviser of Statutes pursuant to KRS 7.136.
My Comment:
Although subsection (8) allows for a Sheriff to receive donations for his or her office;
the same section fails to mention a city police officer or a city police dept.
Now what’s your take on this issue?
Does spending that money not constitute acceptance of a gratuity (even if indirectly)?
Should the Morehead Police (or a principal peace officer thereof) be accepting gratuities?
Don’t take me wrong now;
These tasers are probably a necessity in todays society where abuse of pharmaceuticals
makes the old Mace and OC Pepper spray ineffective for use as a non-lethal alternative
to deadly force, as those people who are under the influence of big pharma drugs feel
very little if any pain — making even the wrestling to the ground and cuffing of a combative
suspect difficult at best, deadly at worse — and I’m glad those officers received those potentially life saving devices.
BUT;
I as a good citizen, have to question the legitimacy of the source of the funding
which paid for those devices, and after reading the following quote from
The Morehead News, I get the feeling that the purchase of these taser guns
may constitute the acceptance of a gratuity:
“We are glad to have these seven guns, and I want to thank Scott Napier and the folks at Wal-Mart for helping us to get these,”
Either way, At Least they took the extra step in getting certified in the use of the taser by
(volunteering) to be shocked by the devices, and I have to Commend them for that.
But what’s your view about what appears to be the acceptance of a gratuity?
July 30th, 2008 at 9:27 am
police have always been a corporation’s henchmen.
public or private
Sheriff is the people’s law man of common law.
July 30th, 2008 at 10:15 am
History repeats itself?…By the mid-16th century, wealthy citizens often resorted to paying deputies to assume their turns as constables; as this practice became widespread, the quality of the constables declined drastically…
http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?articleId=219522
I am reminded yet again of the "glow rods" parody of a tazer
in "Demolition Man" movie with Bullock and Stallone
July 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
They likely wrote that grant money off their income taxes and in addition to the free publicity it has provided to them, it might end up getting them some priority to calls. The restaurants only give discount on food and free drinks. They has always been some kind of freebie given to Morehead cops to keep them coming back often so that police presence will be seen.
I can remember when the old Convenient Food Mart would give em free doughnuts and pop on night shifts just to have a cruiser in the parking lot about every 30 minutes or hour.
It’s nothing new Nighthawk and I don’t think the law you pointed to applies to this particular grant. The way that I read that law sounds like it’s talking about bribes or giving money to an officer directly.
It does fit in with what you have been writing though.
July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I’m not sure but I think all the fast food places give them free food and or drinks. At least Micky D’s does (or did) as well as the old Druthers which is now Fazoli’s. And yeah, the tasers are probably very badly needed.
July 30th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.).
17. You own no property; slaves can’t own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session).
18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502).
19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24).
20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80).
21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520).
22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. v. New Haven 8Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)
23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213).
24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)
25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209).
26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493).
27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)
28. The Popes laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44) .
29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children.(Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481).
30. Military Dictator, George Washington, divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)
31. “The People” does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243).
32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)
33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.
34. Everything in the “United States” is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath Lake. Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)
35. We are Human capital/chattel. (Executive Order 13037)
36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. *
37. The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation. *
38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germany’s infrastructure in the 1930’s, including the Railroads, was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves “Kings,” “Prime Ministers,” and “Furor.”etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries, which in reality were corporate fictions that really didn’t even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing! Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the “Bank of International Settlements” is located. Wars are manufactured to keep you distracted and longing for peace. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of “Government” in place. *
39. The “United States” did not declare Independence from Great Britain or King George.
( under penalty of perjury.) Failure to rebut within ten business days is to admit that all information contained herein is truthful, valid and unrebuttable. This under the law of contracts, 3/7/10.
To date, no one at the IRS has attempted to rebut this information.
July 30th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Some of that is sketchy, the Deed mentioned above is NOT in fee simple and "Abosolute" but is called a "warrenty deed"
July 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
OK… I think It’s fixed?…
It wouldn’t let me post the whole thing in either. So I edited 1-15 into your post and moderated the others.
July 31st, 2008 at 10:32 am
#15 was erased by the space aliens?
I will look but for some reason I posted these and they
kept disappearing until I broke it up into segments.
and then only would post the 2nd half first and then the
1st half would not post geezzz.
SOME of this is "patriot mythology" or opinion
passed around with scant or hard to find proof
but much of it is not.
I will go back and look for #15
July 31st, 2008 at 10:46 am
15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)
July 31st, 2008 at 10:49 am
Talk about oxymorons (IRS & Interesting)
15 more intersting points:
1. IRS was known as the Bureau of Internal Revenue when it first came into existence. In the 1950’s the name was changed to the Internal Revenue Service.
2. The initial income tax was only 3% tax on individuals making over $800. Today the top tax bracket consists of a 35% tax.
3. The IRS was created by President Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War to help pay for the military expenses.
4. In order for the IRS to print the necessary forms and documents over 300,000 trees are cut down every year.
5. The IRS collected $2.2 trillion in 2006, with $1.2 trillion coming from just federal income taxes.
6. Prior to the introduction of the Taxpayer Bill of Rights in 1998, the burden of proof was put entirely on taxpayers, meaning taxpayers had to prove themselves innocent.
7. The IRS sends out an average 8 billion page of paper every tax season. If all the pieces of paper were laid out end-to-end, it would wrap around the earth 28 times.
8. Over 229 million income tax returns were filed with the IRS in 2006.
9. The federal government spends $200 billion per year on federal tax compliance, which is more money than it takes to produce all of the cars in the United States.
10. The IRS employs over 114,000 people. That’s over double as many as the CIA and five times more than the FBI.
11. The United States tax systems is widely known for being confusing and difficult to understand. Therefore, over 60% of taxpayers seek professional help preparing their tax returns.
12. The average family pays over 38% of their total income to the IRS, which is more than the average family spends on food, clothing, and shelter combined.
13. The IRS has a whistleblowers program designed to help catch tax evaders. In 2005 they paid over $27 million to informants that resulted in nearly $350 million in revenue.
14. The federal government spends about $10 billion per year to pay the IRS’s 114,000 employees.
15. Tax Day, the date when tax returns must be filed with the IRS usually lands on April 15th. However, if the 15th is a weekend or holiday, Tax Day is moved to the next business day.
August 1st, 2008 at 10:19 am
those are two different lists and perspectives on
the IRS the #15 is merged with #14 and was not missing
a carriage return was missing.
The #15 is from the second list.
I never got the "your comment is awaiting Moderation" note
that show up up above.
August 1st, 2008 at 11:07 am
There you go… Reverted it back.
Would you like for me to try and splice the new 1-15 with the others or just leave it as-is?
The reason the "awaiting moderation" message wasn’t displayed is because I just tucked the original comments away into mod cue just in case I merged the wrong lists (like I did)…
August 1st, 2008 at 11:37 am
You really need author abilities on here because those lists are the makings of a good thread.
When an author comments in his own thread he can edit in parts of a comment that disappear.
Besides… looking back I see that you have suggested some ideas for articles but I had not noticed the suggestions at the times. Even though I have managed to get a few started.
And I’m sure that you could have started those articles better then I did because they were your idea. (I hope Dave is reading this because you need to be an author IMHO)
August 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Am I the only one that remembers the FBI tried to
deny the anthrax attacks used weaponised anthrax?
Now how convvvvveeeeenient the cheif suspect
gets himself suicided, he was verrrrry pro-zionist
which means no-one that is not jewish is human
but are animal goi or gentile.
there is a thread idea or two.
August 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Like I was saying… You need author abilities here.
I don’t even know how to begin a thread like that one, but I do remember the anthrax scare.
August 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
OD’d on Tylenol With Codeine?
Why didn’t he just ANTHRAX himself in IF he was the one behind the letters?
Sort’a reminds me of when Ruby was rubbed out (died of a sudden illness)
after rubbing out Oswald (with a pistol in a police station) who was accused
of rubbing out JFK.
Of course I’m not hooking onto any links from CNN as the story might change.
August 1st, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I would just about bet that someone linked to him (public or private)
ends up dieing from a brain hemorrhage or heart attack or something.
But it will be kept low key if/when it happens.
BUT Don’t Take My Word For It;
have another glass of naturally fluoridated bottled spring water.
mmmmmmmmm toxins yummy!
August 1st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
MOREHEAD SNEWS DID NOT PRINT OUR REVIVAL NOTICE. It started tonight, Friday, and will be Saturday night at 6p.m., Sunday morning at 10a.m. and Sunday night at 6p.m. As one of the people at church said, they got the ad in plenty of time and the old devil has his workers everywhere. Now don’t shoot the messenger. But you know it’s true and I am not calling anyone at the Snews a devil or worker thereof so don’t go flying off the handle on some kick the cat to the curb tantrum. The old devil was just trying to keep people away but it didn’t work! Praise the Lord! Anyway, the Preacher from Arizona and Holy Spirit blew the roof off the church tonight. It was awesome! Can not wait for what is to come. Ain’t nothing like a good old fashioned Holy Ghost filled tongue talkin’ devil stompin Holy Roller Revival.
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 am
I think that I saw an announcement about the revival on TV-10 at least a few times.
So word was put out at least across 4 or 5 counties during their prime time slots.
There are a lot more people watching the news, weather and Buy A Hog - Sell A Dog
then you think and they do as many public service announcements as they get or as
time allows them to do.
The newspaper isn’t exactly a locally owned media outlet anymore, and hasn’t been
for years. Remember "Hospital Admissions & Releases"?
I think it [the paper] was still semi-locally owned and operated back just before that
feature of the paper was dropped.
Was that a "paid advertisement" that was supposed to appear in the paper or
a reader submitted news article or a public service announcement?
But in any event I am thinking that I saw the announcement on TV-10, one of the
good things about having a locally owned/operated media outlet.
I’d personally like to see some more locally produced shows aired, but you can’t
expect 1 or 2 people to do all the work on a continuous basis.
Why I’d bet there’s more work going on during the movie breaks then there is
during the live broadcasts, with the phone constantly ringing while folks are
doing the commercial voice-overs, video editing, etc…
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 am
"he was verrrrry pro-zionist" Do you mean as a pro ZOG type?
I don’t mean to come off sounding like that reads, but it’s the only
vocab I know to ask that question with.
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
Q. What’s the difference between the fluoride put in drinking water, in toothpaste and rat poison?
A. Absolutely nothing, except the intent.
Rat poison fluoride is highly toxic, is intended to kill mammals and it does so easily. Fluoride put in drinking water and toothpaste is chemically identical to rat poison, but is claimed to "improve" tooth health.
Since 1997 all fluoridated toothpaste is now required to carry a warning, (go take at a look at the tube in your bathroom) which states in part to "keep out of reach of children," and if you accidentally swallow more than needed for brushing teeth "Contact the Poison Control Center!"
Q. How many foods, nutrients or vitamins do you eat with a warning like that?
A. None.
Would you eat a hamburger or a milkshake with a warning to "Contact the Poison Control Center" if you ate too much?
Water fluoridation is typically performed in the U.S. by adding sodium fluoride, a waste product of aluminum production, sodium silicoflouride or hydrofluosilicic acid to drinking water supplies (at 1 ppm). All three are poisonous in small amounts. In concentrations exceeding 1.5 ppm Sodium Fluoride "may cause mottling of tooth enamel." Van Nostrands Scientific Encyclopedia, 1976 Fluorine is the most reactive element and one of the strongest oxidizing agents known.
Prior to 1945 fluoride was not added to water anywhere in the world. Some areas, notably China, have significant amounts of fluoride naturally occurring in drinking water. Switzerland, after fluoridating its water for 40 years, just passed a law against Water fluoridation because it has shown no benefit. Most European countries (e.g. Sweden, Holland, Switzerland, France, Germany, Austria, Denmark) forbid adding fluoride to drinking water.
Separately from fluoride’s broad array of known cumulative poisonous effects on humans (including arthritis, mutations and death), water companies may be reluctant to add fluoridation because of the extreme difficulty in controlling the amount of it in each gallon of water. Too little (less than 1 ppm) and there is no claimed effect upon teeth; only slightly more (1.0 to 1.5ppm) and fluoride is known to damage teeth.
MSDS stands for Material Safety Data Sheet. Every product for sale or for use in business in United States, which has dangerous properties (such as poisonous, toxic or deadly effects) must have an MSDS sheet. Products which do not have dangerous properties, such as most foods, do not need an MSDS sheet.
All of the fluoride products put in drinking water are well-established , hazardous waste products. Each of them is required by law to have an MSDS sheet.
Toxic spills of fluoride in drinking water are never publicized by fluoridation promotion agencies, the Public Health Service, the National Institute for Dental Research, and the Center for Disease Control. The following is a partial list of known fluoridation accidents never publicized with a national press release which would alert city councils and the public of the inherent risk in fluoridation:
*August 1993 — Poplarville, Miss: 40 persons poisoned; 15 sought treatment at hospital. Pizza Inn manager was the first to notify city officials after several customers became ill.
*August 1993 — Galesburg, Illinois: Tank truck delivering fluoride to water treatment plant leaked 15-20 gallons on city street. Streets barricaded until fire department’s hazardous materials unit could clean up the spill.
*July 1993 — Chicago, Illinois: 3 dialysis patients died; five additional patients allergic (toxic) reaction. Centers for Disease Control were called in to investigate, but no details have received a nationwide press release. (Read Chicago Sun-Times article about this accident)..
*May 1993 — Kodiak, Alaska (Old Harbor): Residents were warned by phone and public radio of high fluoride levels. Officials warned that the more water consumed with elevated fluoride, the worse the danger becomes, and that boiling water could concentrate the fluoride even further. Boiling water in preparing foods always concentrates the fluoride even with 1.0 ppm. The fluoridation equipment appeared to be operating normally; 22-24 ppm fluoride was found when a monthly sample was sent to the Public Health Service lab in Kodiak. Bruce Erickson, DEC environmental manager, said these levels could indicate higher levels were in the system.
*January 1993 — Sarnia, Ontario: Fluoride at 13 ppm Mayor and public notified after the fact. Sarnia Mayor Bradley stated that the public should have been notified in time so people could choose whether to drink the water or not. And, that those responsible for fluoridating, “shouldn’t be investigating itself.” The fluoridating computer-controlled system had failed to shut down.
*July 1992 — Marin County, California: Due to a pump malfunction allowing too much fluoride in the Bon Tempe treatment, 2 million gallons of fluoridated were diverted to Phoenix Lake, elevating the lake surface by more than two inches forcing some water over the spillway.
*June 1992 — Danvers, Illinois: Fluoride pump malfunctioned; level of fluoride not stated in local paper, but warning must have been given. After flushing the water through fire hydrants, the Illinois EPA allowed the city to lift the warning.
*May 1992 — Hooper Bay, Alaska: One death, 260 poisoned; one airlifted to hospital in critical condition. It was first speculated that the residents had a “flu virus.” Alaska state health officials stated the fluoridation accident was due to poor equipment and lack of a qualified operator. However, accidents have occurred with “state-of-the-art” equipment and the highest qualified water operators. The widow of the deceased is suing the Yukon-Kuskokwim Health Corporation for $3 million, charging negligence for not warning villagers of the high fluoride levels. (Read Morning News Tribune article about this accident.)
*February 1992 — Rice Lake, Wisconsin: Residents vomiting: Centers for Disease Control stated that 150 water consumers potentially at risk. Pump overfed fluoride for two days, thought to have reached 20 ppm. In a domino effect, high winds caused volt lines to connect, causing conductors to burn to ground and a jumper to fail, resulting in failure of the anti-siphoning device, causing fluoride to pour through the pipes. The Wisconsin State Dental Director, stated, “To be harmful, exposure would have to have been about 225 ppm.” This statement cannot be substantiated in any publications documenting the toxicity of fluoride.
*December 1991 — Benton Harbor, Michigan: Faulty pump allowed approximately 900 gallons of hydrofluosilicic acid to leak into a chemical storage building at the water plant. City Engineer Roland Klockow stated, “the concentrated hydrofluosilicic acid is so corrosive that it ate through more than two inches of concrete in the storage building.” This water did not reach water consumers, but fluoridation was stopped until June 1993. The original equipment was only two years old; Mr. Klockow had hoped to recover the cost of the pump and repair costs to the building.
*September 1991 — Calgary, Alberta, Canada: Fluoride diffuser problems in six machines. Leak of seven liters (quarts) of fluoride sent two water treatment personnel to the hospital for oxygen after breathing the fluoride fumes. Gary Lamb, engineer, stated that “This product is an acid so we can’t put it through a steel pipe because it corrodes, but plastic isn’t strong enough.”
*September 1991 — Burlington, North Carolina: 4,000 gallons of a 6,000 gallon fiberglass fluoride tank ruptured. Water plant workers wearing special suits contained the spill to the water treatment plant. Replacement tank was expected to cost $15,000.
*July 1991 — Portage, Michigan: Approximately 40 children with abdominal pains, sickness, vomiting and diarrhea at an arts and crafts show at school. One of the city’s fluoride injector pumps failed. Fluoride levels not determined at the time, but later tested at 92 ppm. (See study about accident)
*November 1990 — St. Louis, Missouri: 500 gallons of hydrofluosilicic acid leaked from a ruptured pipe at the St. Louis County water works plant. About 12 employees were evacuated. Fireman built sand dikes around the leak, added lime to the spilled fluoride to neutralize it, and plugged the pipe.
*October 1990 — Westby, Wisconsin: Four families suffered a week of diarrhea, upset stomach and burning throats. Fluoride equipment malfunctioned, causing the fluoride to surge to 150 ppm. The water utility supervisor said he had expected the fluoride to be ten times normal since it had burned his mouth. The fluoride corroded the copper off the pipes in area homes, 70 times higher than the EPA recommended limit. Westby Council stopped fluoridating.
*January 1988 — Schenectady, New York: Spill of 2,000 gallons of fluoride completely destroyed the fluoridation facility. Over $48,000 spent to clean up the spill and dispose of fluoride in approved dump site. It was estimated that the cost to replace the facility would be $261,000.
*March 1986 — New Haven (No Branford) Connecticut: Of the 312 persons interviewed four days after the accident, in the 127 households at risk, 18% had symptoms of abdominal cramping, nausea, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, diaphoresis (profuse sweating), and fever. This did not include those with rashes and irritation from bathing and washing dishes. The fluoride peaked at 51 ppm. The acidic fluoride leached copper; the Connecticut State Dental Director chastised water department personnel for not recognizing immediately that public complaints were due to fluoride and not copper. This accident was finally reported two years later in the American Journal of Public Health, June 1988 where it would not have received public notice to alert other states.
*November 1979 — Annapolis, Maryland: (Read Newspaper article on this incident) One death in a dialysis patient; other dialysis patients suffered a cardiac arrest (resuscitated), nausea, hypotension, chest pain, diarrhea, itching, flushing vomiting (blood tinged), difficulty breathing, profuse sweating, weakness, numbness, and stomach cramping. Water consumers not on dialysis also reported nausea, headache, cramps, diarrhea and dizziness.
The Evening Capital reported in October 1982 that the wife of the dialysis patient who was brain-injured had sued the City of Annapolis for $480 million; this was settled out of court in 1985. Other patients also sued. Pepsi Cola sued for $1.6 million for damage to product. Waterworks personnel were also sued, demoted, and had payroll deductions.
The Baltimore Sun reported in a November 1979 story on the fluoridation accident that, “Even though state and county health officials learned of the spill nine days after it occurred, no public announcement was made and the City Council was not told of the situation for six more days…” And, quoted a County Health officer stating that the delay in notification was because “We didn’t want to jeopardize the fluoridation program…”
Ironic and tragic, again in Annapolis, the Evening Capitol reported on January 6, 1990 of the death of the executive director of the Association of Area Business Publications, and former Kentucky newspaper publisher. On July 27, 1989, he had asked for a glass of water in a drug store to take a penicillin tablet for a toothache. By mistake, he was given a glass of stannous fluoride. He immediately suffered a cardiac arrest and brain damage, going into a coma. On August 22, the family asked that life support systems be withdrawn.
Much of the information on toxic spills of fluoride that does reach the public is incomplete and inaccurate. In the November issue of Opflow, an American Water Works Association publication for water operators, only seven fluoridation accidents were listed as occurring from 1976-1992. The population at risk for the Annapolis spill is listed as “8” when, in fact, thousands were at risk. Unless a death occurs, Tom Reeves, National Fluoridation Engineer, Centers for Disease Control, refers to fluoridation accidents as “overfeeds,” and has stated that water consumers “cure themselves by vomiting” during fluoridation accidents.
The toxicity and corrosiveness of fluoride compounds the risk of fluoridation equipment malfunction and operator error for all fluoridated water systems.
Compiled from information from http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/accidents/carton-1994.html and http://www.1hope.org/fluoride.htm
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 am
Pretty scary there Nighthawk, but how about MDs Poisoning Our Children:
Poison In Our Vaccines: Investigating Mercury, Thimerosal, and Neurodevelopmental Delay
By Lyn Redwood
Issue 115, November/December 2002
More than 60 years ago, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a little-known product, thimerosal, to be used as a preservative. Today, many parents question if this product is responsible for the current epidemic of children diagnosed with learning disabilities and autism.
Thimerosal
Current thinking suggests that exposure to mercury comes primarily from environmental and dietary sources, dental amalgams, and rare catastrophic events. Recently, however, another common and pervasive source of mercury exposure has been identified. Called thimerosal, it was first approved as an additive by the FDA in the 1930s and has been utilized as a preservative to prevent bacterial contamination in a number of blood and biological products, including vaccines, immune globulins, and over-the-counter eye and nose drops.
The danger that thimerosal presents is that it contains 49.5 percent ethyl mercury by weight. Mercury is a potent human toxicant and has long been the source of many serious health problems. It is especially toxic to the rapidly developing fetal and infant brain. Federal agencies have published acceptable levels for exposure; but in actual fact mercury is a poison at any level. Chemically, thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. In the human body it is metabolized to ethyl mercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is old, and toxicological information is limited. In the past there have been case reports of toxicity and death following inadvertent massive exposures to thimerosal.
The FDA’s Discovery
The FDA Modernization Act, signed into law in 1997, included an amendment requiring the agency to compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and to provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds on the list. One may ask why the FDA did not routinely perform this task. The FDA’s mission is to ensure purity, safety, potency, and efficacy of individual products, yet such analyses have never been a required part of the permitting process. In its review, which took two years to complete, the FDA discovered that infants who receive vaccines containing thimerosal may be exposed to more mercury than recommended by federal guidelines for total mercury exposure.
Infant vaccines that routinely contained thimerosal were DPT (diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus), hepatitis B, and Hib (Hemophilus influenzae type b). Following the vaccination schedule recommended by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), infants were exposed to anywhere from 0.0 to 187.5 mcg of ethyl mercury, depending on the vaccine manufacturer, and total exposure over 18 months could be as high as 237.5 mcg. The dose the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) deems allowable is 0.1 mcg per kilogram per day. If an average 5 kg-infant received all thimerosal-containing vaccines at his two-month visit, his exposure that day would be 62.5 mcg ethyl mercury–125 times as great as the EPA guideline.
In its analysis, the FDA multiplied EPA’s daily exposure levels of 0.1 mcg per kilogram by 180 days, even though the exposures had occurred on only four days during this time period. It is perplexing that the FDA chose to average an infant’s total exposure to mercury over the first six months of life as though children were being exposed on a daily basis, and reported that amounts were only slightly above one of the federal guidelines. According to toxicologists, because of the inherent pharmokinetics of mercury and its long half-life in the body, the effect of a large injected dose cannot be calculated as though it were ingested in small amounts over a longer period of time. This method of analysis inaccurately minimizes the levels of exposure. If one were to look at the mercury in thimerosal from a daily dose perspective, no one vaccine containing thimerosal would meet EPA’s guidelines for safe exposure. A simple analogy can be made that since one may safely consume four Tylenol a day in six-hour intervals for a month, consuming 120 Tylenol in one day would be equally safe. (In fact, it would be a fatal dose.) At the same time the FDA findings were released, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) published an interim report to physicians on thimerosal in vaccines. In the report, the AAP and Public Health Service agreed that the use of thimerosal-containing vaccines should be reduced or eliminated, stating that any potential risk was of concern.1 While this report discussed much of the uncertainty regarding the potential effect of mercury exposure in vaccines, it clearly stated that there was no evidence of harm having occurred from such exposure. The report also said, "Infants and children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do not need to have blood, urine, or hair tested for mercury since the concentrations would be quite low and would not require treatment." Without such tests, of course, it was impossible to know for a fact that there was no "evidence of harm." (read more)
Vaccines and Autism have a Connection
The Age of Autism: ‘A pretty big secret’
For more great vaccine info you can go to
http://www.909shot.com
it is the National Vaccine Information Center. That isn’t afraid to publish what the drug companies don’t want you to know.
For one of my favorite books on vaccines go here
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1881217302/bazuji20
It was written by a soon to be parent who went and research vaccines because he heard there was some controversy over them. And he is now one of the biggest proponents against vaccines. It is highly referenced with medical references and studies. And the book is thin so most people will actually read it.
The Story:
By DAN OLMSTED
UPI Senior Editor CHICAGO, Dec. 7 (UPI) — It’s a far piece from the horse-and-buggies of Lancaster County, Pa., to the cars and freeways of Cook County, Ill.
But thousands of children cared for by Homefirst Health Services in metropolitan Chicago have at least two things in common with thousands of Amish children in rural Lancaster: