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   TechKnomen on

   August 26, 2007
   9:30 am

   I think hemp for fuel and fibre should be pushed for and hard so that we have some raw material to build wealth around besides coal and the elete’s horses.

   Goats, mushrooms corn, bluegrass music and bucks for brains or even the internet and folk art, just ain’t gonna do it.

   Tobacco is being squeezed out to be grown in india like about every job that can be sent there.

   A value added product where it is rediculously marked up by the use of sunshine and rain and not even if done right fertiliser; I have never heard of anybody’s dope crop being eaten by any bugs just deer and rabbits.

   With hemp Kentucky could be turn the textile, paint varnish, paper, rope, bullet proof vest, fish oil, biodesil and you bet, dope industries to our good. Hemp paper is some of the best archivial acid free stuff around, I know I have seen the difference in old books crumbling apart from wood pulp paper verses hemp documents that are like new.

   The price of dope would plummet to the point the corrupt “officials” couldn’t trade it for other drugs in the black market PLUS the fibre/oil/seed crop would cross pollinate with those still trying to grow a hybridized non-pollinated female dope field so that the real hard core addicts wouldn’t get much more than a headache from smoking it; that’s the experience the french have found from their fiber crop, once the teenagers try smoking it and don’t get much if any buzz they leave it alone and grow theirs indoors or buy it from ….

   drum roll please…silk road taliban dealers from afganistan!LOL NOT.

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   dhunley on

   August 26, 2007
   3:15 pm

   I’ve heard this before:

   PLUS the fibre/oil/seed crop would cross pollinate with those still trying to grow a hybridized non-pollinated female dope field so that the real hard core addicts wouldn’t get much more than a headache from smoking it;

   …sounds possible (even likely). Got a question for you…can the honey from marijuana have enough THC to have any kind of potency?

   Now HERE’s a conspiracy theory I can buy into…lol. I have no doubt—whatsoever—that a county could get rid of practically ALL drug dealing if they wanted to. My goodness, all you need do is talk to people around the county and you’ll quickly discover exactly who is selling the stuff!

   About three months ago, I was watching a road bore operation. The neighbors told me “That guy over there is selling drugs…better watch your stuff at night.” Sure enough, all day long there was a steady stream of cars make short visits (MAYBE they were just came a callin’ but it sure was suspicious.

   They said it did no good to call the law and the guy would cause them trouble every time they did.

   Anyway…I believe there is enough corruption within local law enforcement—whether they’re being tipped off by low level insiders or higher up authorities.

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   TechKnomen on

   August 27, 2007
   4:26 pm

   First when I say Addicts I should say “habitual users”

   as THC technically is not phisically addictive, like alcohol or even codine or heroine or nicotine is for that matter.

   There is no way to have a completely THC free hemp, however, it is a hormone that the female plant makes.

   People that have not smoked it/eaten it can be very sensitive as the human brain has receptors for THC, we are born to be able to use the stuff. Nicotine receptors must be grown and that is one reason you can get so sick from 1st uses of tobacco as the brain has to grow the receptors to deal with it, then you are more easily addicted to nicotine which has physiological withdrawl sysmtoms.

   Of all the junk I have heard about THC other than the sever tar from smoking it the only major “draw” back is that your brain’s endorphine production will take awhile to come back up to normal. Smoking or using THC will reduce natural endorphine production if used on a regular basis.

   There is also claims that it does genetic damage from years ago befor the human genome was supposedly mapped?

   And claims it will make you gay as it supposedly reduces testosterone and such? Alot of that reeks of the propaganda used to do away with the “devils’ weed” from the 30’s when only the “degenerative races” used it? And it would immediately result in men raping women (as in the “refer madness” dupont propaganda piece that help to secure nylon had a foothold on the market.

   I wonder if research has been squashed into hemp as a fibre for sutures instead of cat gut and nylon or the formerly popular silk.

   I do know that hemp has been totally squashed by conventional medicine for severe nausea of chemotherapy and yes severe morning sickness even with evidence going back 4000 years that it was used by the chinese for that very purpose, maybe it did the genetic damage that made them into the “degenerative race” race they are?

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   dhunley on

   August 28, 2007
   6:13 am

   How about the honey, Tech? That is, can honey collected from marijuana actually have enough THC to be potent?

   I don’t believe it is possible…but I had a guy who said he had had some. I told him it was probably laced, but he was convinced.

   Do you know?

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   Name (required) on

   August 28, 2007
   10:22 am

   As long as you realize that Hemp and Marijuana are two totally different things…

   HEMP is legal in Kentucky, there are some restrictions that are too lengthly for this discussion, but possession of HEMP products are legal. A few years ago it was illegal to possess any HEMP or MARIJUANA products. Now HEMP is legal, but cultivation is restricted. MARIJUANA remains illegal to possess and/or cultivate in Kentucky.

   Are you asking about Marijuana Honey?

   Or;

   Are you asking about Hemp Honey?

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   Name (required) on

   August 28, 2007
   12:43 pm

   If you found a way to extract the very small amount of THC from the leaves of a hemp vine and turn it into a honey or oil, you would end up with a marijuana product. The hippies called it hash, hash oil, golden honey, etc…

   I wouldn’t doubt that it would be possible to enhance the THC level of that honey, but doing so would be beyond my knowledge.

   Take Corn for example…

   Corn has absolutely no intoxicating effects after consumption, but sour and distill the mash of the corn and you have alcohol.

   Anything can be abused.

   Back to the topic at hand now…

   Marijuana, being a relative to hemp, also contains THC, but much higher concentrations of it. Thus the “Honey” made from the marijuana plant would be much more potent than any “Hashish” made from the hemp vine.

   So to answer your question with the limited amount of information that you have given;

   Yes… But the only way to know it isn’t laced would be to send it to a crime lab.

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   TechKnomen on

   August 28, 2007
   9:50 pm

   Canabus sativa l

   is hemp or marijuanna

   It depends on how you grow it

   without giving away the details

   so a 12year old will know;

   Just let it be said that acres of hemp would cross pollinate the dope crops for miles away, ((the way GM monsanto corn marker genes have shown up all the way round the world even in countries that “ban” GM foods and crops))

   unless grown in airtight indoor operations.

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   Name (required) on

   August 28, 2007
   10:20 pm

   I have to disagree with that.

   The difference is in the seed.

   It makes no difference how you grow a seed that has the genetics of the hemp vine.

   You could grow hemp trees for that matter and they would possess very little THC.

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   Name (required) on

   August 28, 2007
   10:36 pm

   I do however agree that a decade or so of cross pollination between hemp and marijuana would destroy the dope crops.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 28, 2007
    11:12 pm

    Female hemp plant can turn hermaphroditic and self pollinate like snakes can, with out pollination it escalates THC as long as the flower stage continues, indoor growers play with modulating light cycles to go between growth phases and flower phases and some say they have kept the same plant indoors and trimmed back untill the stalk looks like a small tree.

    The male hemp is very tall and spindly and even it has a small amount of thc BUT the male produces phytochemicals that counteract it so it cant be smoked for a high.

    Dope growers have worked on isolating different lines of higher thc females but the levels still are not as high if it is allowed to be pollinated especially early in the flower stage.

    And you get seed of course.

    The shorter bushy female dope strains are easily identified from the male tall spindly hemp crops but

    it is the same plant; cannibus sativa

    Some smokers I have talked to just need the leaves of the femal to get a buzz while hard core daily smokers need but flowers or they are not satisfied, brownies and tea are another story and you’ll get the omega fatty acids and antioxidents without tar in the lungs.

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    Name (required) on

    August 28, 2007
    11:24 pm

    The amount of THC can only escalate as far as the seeds genetics will allow it to.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    10:11 am

    they can be bred or selectied for THC like tomatoes can be hybidised from cherry to beefsteak to yellow or pink.

    The strains of hemp are all able to be enhanced for either fibre or THC.

    The problem I see is that if it is re-commercialised the likes of Monsanto and ADM will immediately start genetically modifications (if not already) to make it roundup resistant or produce its own pesticides and such so that THOSE +GM Rdna pollins will pollute the wild hemp around the world and the smokers or eaters of hemp will then get the added bonus of pesticides in their guts like some of the GM corn and Soy is supposedly doing now. Rats and Cows have been shown to have bateria that the virus used to splice in pesticides genitics have spliced into the gut bacteria and goes on producing the junk in their intestines

    mmmmmmm yummy good.

    And Crapitolism is good for you too.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    10:33 am

    Crapitolism being another name for cronie capitolism not to be confused with the

    free enterprise system we the people were supposed to have.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_financial_reports

    (just a starting point for further CAFR research;

    “plunge protection team” might prove a interesting search term or phrase

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    11:13 am

    Wikipedia snipet on

    the nicknamed “Plunge Protection Team” of the Raygun effort.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets

    just a link to start now, sources must be verified yur self.

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    11:37 am

    So we agree then, that Hemp seeds are bread for the specific purpose of growing hemp, and that marijuana seeds are bread for the specific purpose of cultivating marijuana. The hemp seedling being able to produce very little THC upon maturity and the marijuana seedling being capable of producing abundant amounts of THC upon it’s maturity.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    4:18 pm

    No, not the way you put it, the male hemp/marijuana/canibus

    sativa has very low THC and what it does have is thwarted by other phytochemicals

    kinda like men have estrogen but their testosterone and progesterone levels counteract it

    OR women have some testosterone but until menopause their estrogen counteracts the testosterone.

    This causes or is used to cause confusion.

    the problem is one of perception.

    A hemp seed can be provolked, if female to produce a smokeable level of THC it may not be approved of by expert/experienced smokers in amsterdam (where U.S. dope grown by the government is rated very high-ly BTW)

    But that is the road block used by law enforcment and the sobriety crowd that is propigated to thwart industrial hemp infavor of all the dow chemical type products and paper industry.

    I have stopped giving a crap what they say as they come at it from the

    “devil’s weed” mentality which is

    tea totally dellusional from either a creationists or evolutionary mentality.

    The “devil” is a destroyer not a creator of anything but chaos perhaps.

    It gives too much credit to any concept of a “devil” to attribute hemp to that spiritual concept.

    We as human have the THC receptors in our brains so why is dat? One wunders if it might be necessary for mental fitness and maybe less

    of the flouride laced big pharma zombie products would be necessary

    Still I don’t advocate for smoking it, eating it or drinking a tea would be a much healthier delivery system for the other spectrum of phytochemicals in the most usefull single plant in the solar sytem.

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    5:03 pm

    I don’t understand what their isn’t to agree about here…

    Take your very own tomato plant example as an example. You can’t plant seeds for yellow tomatoes and expect to grow pink tomatoes can you?

    Just like you can’t plant a hemp seed and expect to grow marijuana. Right?

    Surely your not trying to tell me that the way to grow hemp is by planting marijuana seeds and then culling the females.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    6:12 pm

    Tomatoes have male and female flower on the same plant hemp does not.

    Yellow tomatoes from your neighbors yard can pollinate your pink heiloom maters with ADM grasshopper RDNA however LOL?

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    6:30 pm

    You were the one who used tomatoes for an example to begin with, remember?

    But my specific question remains the same…

    Are you trying to tell me that the way to grow hemp is by planting marijuana seeds and then culling the females?

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    6:51 pm

    Oh and yea I have planted heirloom pink tomatoes and

    apparently my neibors yellow tomatoes put some yellow streaks in mine as the guy who has grown them 5oyears says he has never had yellow streeks in any of his?

    Fluke or reversion mutation I dont know with out a stupor computer to do a genetic analisys it its all theory and

    we had better put out the GM fire as there is alread serious satanic damage done to creation.

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    6:59 pm

    You just lost me, completely.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    7:02 pm

    You could do that but it is not necessary for a fibre only crop;

    but some varieties of hemp are better for fibre, taller and thinner reguardless of THC levels.

    Hemp is a very adaptable and hearty plant that will grow just about anywhere there is enuff water and sunshine (or grow lights LOL)

    Half of the value of industrial hemp/canibus is the seed and oil production, so culling female out is cutting production and economic crop viabilty.

    People used to be more socally against smoking hemp because it was propagandised as something the “degenrative races” did. Even in “Back to the Future” a scene that is often censored showed the Black Band memebers in a smoke filled car acting abit stoned.

    The male is not affected by the presence of females

    so growing a crop for fiber does not require any female plants until next year and you need seeds.

    SO you could have government licensed or government run hemp seed farms (like they already do) grow the plants up to big enuff to sex them somewhat reliably and then

    distribute the plants out to be grown up to the 20ft height at harvest for the fiber to make canvas(the dutch word for canibus BTW) or paper or green jeans or whatever.

    The fields could be inspected for the shorter bushy female with the buds that make the THC.

    I have never heard of a male plant going hermaphroditic to female but I suppose it is possible.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    7:04 pm

    Well I typed that before you posted that so it was not a responce to your previous post next one was, look at the time stamps?

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    TechKnomen on

    August 29, 2007
    7:07 pm

    well ok I see what happened I typed without refreshing the page so I did not see your posts labelled 6:30 and 6:59

    life goes on between posts ya know. I dont yet have

    a toiletron2000 puter like someone I know but it is not on the net either so?

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    7:24 pm

    I realized that after I had already typed that response. Life does go on indeed, and some of life’s little distractions do cause misunderstandings, especially over the internet.

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    10:36 pm

    Although both hemp and marijuana are obtained specifically from the cannabis plant, the two end products are totally different things. Actually the hemp vine or stalk and a marijuana plant are two totally different things. I’m not trying to argue that hemp isn’t derived from cannabis, the point that I’m trying to make is that hemp contains very little of the stuff that makes people high, Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as THC.

    I believe that you are saying the same thing, so I still fail to see how we can be in disagreement about this.

    Maybe it’s the novelty of calling it marijuana because the leafs look like marijuana leafs, the seeds look like the marijuana seed, the stems I’d imagine look like the stems of a marijuana plant, and yes if you were licensed to grow hemp, you could have a whole lot of fun by letting your “think” that you were growing marijuana plants. But that act might be a crime itself, so much for free speech.

    The thing is, I just can’t understand how or why a proponent of the hemp industry would want to associate hemp with marijuana.

    Besides, would you want tell a government agent or a judge that you planted a marijuana seed, or would you rather tell them that you had planted the hemp seed which you were permitted to plant?

    Are hemp and marijuana not two different things?

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    10:42 pm

    Is there any way to preview our post before we actually post them?

    I forgot to add a “__” in the post up above, but I think everyone will figure it out.

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    Name (required) on

    August 29, 2007
    11:03 pm

    Has anyone seen dhunley about?

    What are your thoughts on the possibility of the future production of industrial hemp in Rowan County?

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    TechKnomen on

    August 30, 2007
    10:22 am

    I can put it this way, (after or if) the crash of current civilization hemp will live on and be used by surviving humans as it has for thousands of years for rope and food and for morning sickness and such.

    IF Kentuck want to have something other than a wizard of oz credit/debt based econonmy then hemp and other agricultural free enterprises

    need to be a foundation to that house.

    (unless there is some nightmare genetic modifications that unzip all creation from some rDNA virus *bleeping*bleep up)

    I can see with my limited knowlege how certain cell mechanics could be highjacked to unzip a bunch of organisms dna and not zip it back together.

    Most cancers are mitocondrial disorders for example, and those darn canadians developed a cure or treatment years ago shhhhhhhhhh.

    Drink you RDA of Fluoride laced Sodium Benzoate now mmmmmmmm good fer big pharma.

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    Name (required) on

    August 30, 2007
    2:57 pm

    dhunley,

    What are your thoughts on the possibility of the future production of industrial hemp in Rowan County and the surrounding area?

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    Name (required) on

    August 30, 2007
    3:07 pm

    TechKnomen,

    In a post SHTF condition, would You and Me be prepared for all the cleanup that will have to be done? I have to question my own preparedness in that scenario.

    Sure, I could stay in a little shelter for months without going stir crazy, but to see what had become to everything… and to have to clean it up for our own health benefits, well that’s going to be the hard part.

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    Name (required) on

    August 30, 2007
    3:44 pm

    How many people in todays time would even know how to “pound the starch” out of hemp, let alone weave the fiber strands into a usable canvas? Yes, I know how to remove the starch and the fibers from inferior quality weeds like cattails and I’m sure that you do too. I can even use the cattail to make flour and some inferior quality clothing if necessary. I haven’t practiced this with the hemp plant because of legal implications, but I’m pretty sure that the process would be rather similar.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 30, 2007
    4:29 pm

    Well there are a few articles on “You will survive doomsday” that are worth a read, and there are survivalists out there besides mormons that consider themselves prepared whether they are or not.

    Even in a total newklar exchange some biosphere elements will survive besides cockroaches and hemp.

    People with brains are likely to survive and in a “Postman”(K.Kosner flick) scenario some folks will reinvent their own techniques and methods eventually.

    “The World” (age or era) has already ended several times that is gennerally known of in the esoteric biblical sence, IF there was not other floods or events not generally admitted to by mainstream historical accounts.

    Be it Planet X or Nibru or Wormwood or whatever, there is evidence of reasons for

    Adam and Eve to be told to “replenish”/(repopulate ?) the earth from some earlier age or era or world where perhaps humans got arrogant and tried to make creation over in their preferred image (genetically?)

    Noah was a wine-o but his saving trait was he was not misogenated - “perfect in his generations”/none of his ancestors had took up with the “strange women” be they of the line of cain or of those that saw the daughters of men were fair and came down to take them as wives? (theorised to be the origins of 6fingered giants with the 3rd eye giant pineal glands sticking out of their forheads like David hit with his slingshot.

    (the snake on Egyptian headpieces supposedly?)

    Anywho the

    current “war on drugs”/war on terrorism/war on poverty or whatever might as well be a war on dust. Nice to pipe dream about but a never ending resource zapping impracticality in my book.

    A government big enuff to give you every thing you want is big enuff to take everything you have. duh

    Protect the natural borders and do the customs thing and divy up the oil royalitys in interstate commerce and heed G. Washington’s and others warnings about foriegn entanglements?

    Unless Eisenshauer’s military industrial complex is really masquading as the giverment then the quote is:

    “none are so hopelessly enslaved than they who falsely believe they are free”

    or perhaps,

    he who is to go into captivity,

    into captivity he will go.

    No use fighting it eh?

    Forget whatever Winston Churchill said ’bout

    better to fight and die than to live a slave.

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    TechKnomen on

    August 31, 2007
    12:49 pm

    Why no artical on Craig

    Doing a “get rid of him” media blitz operation aint we?

    What are we being destracted from eh Patreaus?

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    tattletale on

    August 31, 2007
    5:31 pm

    Maybe the story about local business owners getting maced by cops?

    Idunno?

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    TechKnomen on

    September 2, 2007
    9:04 am

    Tell us more are you afraid of retrobution?

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    tattletale on

    September 2, 2007
    1:58 pm

    No, I’m not afraid of retaliation or anything. As of now it’s only a story that I heard.

    Parts of is are listed in Kat’s Scanner Scoop. But I need to talk to some more people before I start saying that MSU police have maced a local business owner.

    So for now it’s only gossip at best.

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    nighthawk on

    September 2, 2007
    2:35 pm

    Please go on tattletale, tell us what you have heard about what took place in the area of the University Cinema late Thursday night.

    I heard they were considering calling in KSP but decided not to.

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    TechKnomen on

    September 3, 2007
    11:02 am

    Stuff happens all the time that we are left out of, badgmen now have digitally encripted communcations from cell phones to in-car computers to digital radios that take a $600+ scanner to pick up IF it is not encrypted, so welcome to the surveillance high tech police state where they can scrutinize us but we cant keep a check on them, public relations is managed and you are unpatriotic to question any of it.

    What was that teacher’s name again, Mr. Life?

    that got caught at the middle school 5-8years ago doing kiddie porn and NONE of it hit the media at all not even local barely got a snippet out on it, all hushed up reeeel good, I only know about it because someones son was in that class and was grilled by his mom on whether he had been photographed several years prior.

    I know a much older fellow that says when he was a boy it was common for the boys to warn each other about the corn holer priests and this was 60+ years before any of it hit the media.

    I don’t just bash the zionists as some would charge the Jesuits might be marionetting them anyway, the “vicar” uses silk to wipe his behind, does that then become a relic after saint hood is granted?

    We have been spying on the Mosques for at least 50year as well, another source I have was invoved with being the bagman for the payoffs to informants in a certain district of hundreds of muslim churches in a neighboring state in the late 50’s to early 60’s when we were supposely all concerned about the commie red menace, the FBI et cetera had a vast network of informants tracking the activities of the towelheads for decades, but 911 was a total suprise.

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    Name (required) on

    September 7, 2007
    10:04 pm

    dhunley,

    Haven’t heard from you, but still wondering:

    What are your thoughts on the possibility of the future production of industrial hemp in Rowan County and the surrounding area?

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    dhunley on

    September 9, 2007
    10:04 pm

    ah one…ah two…

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    dhunley on

    September 9, 2007
    10:06 pm

    More testing.

    Hemp growing, NR? People are sometimes surprised about what I would and wouldn’t “outlaw”?

    I’m a born-again Christian…and there are LOTS of activities I’d like to see ended if I had my way. However, as a Christian I also know that “outlawing” things is not what Christianity is all about.

    Man!…let me shift gears here real quick…since I don’t seem to have much choice anyway…lol

    I don’t know if it’s because I’ve had so much on work-related stuff on my mind lately, or what…but I can’t seem to get two words to go together. I just can’t seem to say what I want to say! Even trying to get this bit of drivel has taken over 30 minutes!

    I’ll type something…then backspace it out…type something…then backspace it out.

    I guess I’ll just have to deal with it.

    But I’m not against hemp growing in Rowan County…I’m just not the “outlawing” type. I’m of the opinion that as long as you’re not hurting someone else…then what you do is between you and God.

    Now, I know that the case can be made that…say…drinking on Sunday might be hurting an innocent person…such as a child or a spouse or the victim of a drunk driver.

    But those people can be hurt the other six days of the week too…so why not outlaw drinking altogether? What’s so special about Sunday in that regard? I know that what’s special about Sunday has nothing to do with whether the local bar is open or not.

    For instance, I know homosexuality is a sin…but I also know that it is not one iota worse than the sins I commit on a daily basis.

    But I’m STILL not getting it right…lol

    Heck…let me try again…LATER—but I’ll go ahead and post this just to show that I’m around.

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    (required) on

    September 10, 2007
    10:23 am

    dhunkley hopefooly yu wernt exposed to some workplace “better living thur chemicals” solvents or pesticides that are “gennerally recognised as safe”

    Some substances produce a malase or brain fog like you describe where collecting your thoughts becomes difficult and you don’t know why, you are sort of aware that you are experiencing a problem but may not be able to express yourself to tell someone, or be able to remember or recog-nize when or what put you in the fog. Bath in epson salts using a non-municipal water, without all the clorimines and fluorides and by-products and get some b-vitimins and flax/boarage and mercury/pcb-free fish oil (not the type with the pcb included at no extra charge LOL?)

    Powdered Magnesium is another intracellular deficency that is many times ok in blood serium levels but only evident in biopsies. If it effects your brain it effects your heart and vice versa.

    Pericone has the Pericone perscription that details the Brain Body Beauty connection where these various nutrients functions are connected.

    Beyond the basics Omega essential fats and b-complex/folic acid: there is alpa-lipoic acid, coQ10 w/ l-carnitine; CLA-congigated linoleic acid,

    DMAE,

    something I have been triing out is

    Flax(linseed) oil stirred into yogurt or cottage cheese(with

    some honey for flavor)

    (but Who was it that came eating curds and honey?)

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    psuedonomen A.K.A. {name (required)} on

    September 10, 2007
    6:21 pm

    But why should something that is grown for production of rope, clothing, paper, fuel, food, horse bedding, And So Many Other Things, be “outlawed” in the beginning?

    Industrial Hemp IS chemically different from marijuana and incapable of being used as a drug. Yet so many people keep associating hemp with its drug cousin marijuana.

    I’m not suggesting that marijuana be decriminalized, I’m suggesting that the Industrial Hemp and the products made therefrom be honestly considered as a boost for our local economy.

    Comparing Industrial Hemp and Marijuana is like comparing Rubbing Alcohol with Booze.

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    kat on September 11, 2007
    2:10am I haven’t been reading this section but I just realized after one sentence that (name required is Tech). Writing styles don’t change and here we go again on and on about chemical this that and the other.I agree, Hemp, is a viable resource for so many things. Anything can be turned into a sin. Some people really need to take a dose of med’s to keep from vomiting absurities.

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    psuedonomen on

    September 11, 2007
    5:31 pm

    Is that a complement? Thanks!

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    pseudonomen on

    September 11, 2007
    8:22 pm

    Vomiting is a forceful expulsion of the stomach contents due to the contraction of stomach muscles. Vomiting is also known as emesis (sic). Sometimes you may attempt to vomit but may not expel anything from your mouth. This is known as retching (or “dry heaves”. Vomiting may or may not be accompanied by nausea.

    Some of the causes of vomiting are as follows Overeating, Drinking excessive alcohol, Pregnancy, Migraine, Infections, Flu, Stomach upset, Stomach virus, Food poisoning, Poisoning, Accidental poisoning, Acute gastritis, Reflux, Intestinal obstructions, Chronic digestive conditions, Peptic ulcers, Stomach cancer, Intestinal obstruction, Kidney failure, Cholera.

    Some of the effective home remedies for vomiting are as follows. Have a cup of ginger tea, Eat a mixture of honey and powder of 2 roasted cardamoms, Have a glass of chilled lime juice, Have a mixture of 1 tsp mint juice, 1 tsp lime juice, 1/2 tsp ginger juice and 1 tsp honey. Slowly sip a glass of honey water, Have one tsp onion juice in regular interval, Relax for some time.

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    kat on

    September 11, 2007
    11:22 pm

    Dear Dr. FakeMen(aka pseudonomen), you forgot to mention one of the most common causes of nausea and vomiting…listening to crap until you’re sick as a DOG. Meow, Hiss, OINK OINK. Go in Peace before we go to pieces.

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    pseudonomen on

    September 12, 2007
    1:53 am

    I will politely go away when ask to do so by an administrator.

    Just let me point out that I wasn’t the one who said that I was Tech. Not that I was offended by your public assumption, but it could have offended Tech.

    For those who aren’t in the know, I have been tinkering with new nicknames trying to find one that I like, and I think that I like this one. So I will call myself pseudonomen from this day onward.

    Now it is time to practice my authoring skills. Move over Beethoven, give Pseudonomen the floor… Woooh!

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    (required) on

    September 12, 2007
    11:15 am

    yep wernt me I have an alibye for those that know hwere to look? LOL

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    (required) on

    September 12, 2007
    11:17 am

    who forces anyone to do anything on here? expecially compaired to that West virgina story in the news with the 6 on one black charleston girl torured for a week?

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    (required) on

    September 12, 2007
    11:19 am

    Oh yeah imitation is the sincere form of flattery eh psudonomen? Thanks but

    dont be offended.

    Thomas Paine said it rather concisely:

    “He who dares not to offend, cannot be honest”

    (forget political correctness mentality eh?

    Report to room 101 for your sensitivity training)

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    pseudonomen on

    September 12, 2007
    5:47 pm

    Ah, but I have demanded nothing, and fail to see what could I have written that could possibly offend anyone.

    So bring fourth the brain shock device and strap me down… Or better yet… Cut out my frontal lobe for my train of thought does not jibe with others who coexist upon this board.

    And heaven forbid that anyone show offense for a violation of their human right to blog anonymously.

    

    So yes I will be offended by anyone who seeks to expose the identity of anyone here.

    Visit EFF.ORG for information about your right to remain anonymous.

    Edit (September 15, 2007):
    The correct link is EFF.ORG/BR

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    (required) on

    September 13, 2007
    9:17 am

    I would like to remain egronomous but Gatewood cant gett erected uh I mena elected?

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    (required volutary compliance) on

    September 13, 2007
    10:07 am

    Thair ewe go showing off that puter coding agin.

    Technomen even has to put up with people calling him “my hero” and rumor has it he even has friends (and sympathisers)

    I don’t think it was serious about the “offended” quote.

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    TechKnomen on

    September 13, 2007
    10:12 am

    Hey skuzee me fer being a bit lazy and not loggin’ in when I posted under “(required)”

    after I was inspired by the “(Name Required)” blogster

    I do have some suspicions as to who the other(s) may be but I haint givin’ nurry clues LOL?

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    TechKnomen on

    September 13, 2007
    10:24 am

    Hey on the Hemp/pot thang; you can get high from carbon monoxide/o2 deprivation but you wont like the headache or health factors if you live from years of it; I have heard that Montel Williams recommends(or rather) eats his hemp for these reasons to deal with the fibro/ms or what ever he has.

    Some say he is turning gay cause he cried on his show.

    Guess the age of “sensitive new age man” is over or never quite came to Mo’head.

    That is one of the warnings anti pot propagandists preach is that is it demasculinizes and goofs sperm count and quality, and genetic stuff.

    I dont have a clue who to believe on that. I do know that some have told me they got high just from smoking the leaves of the plant not the bud, could be the carbon monoxide? I tried “mullin”/rabbit tobacco? one time (the green tobacco cousin) and it did nothing for me back when I had the lung capacity of a elephant. The DEA allows “trace” ammounts of THC in the hemp oil you can buy at the stoe’ but noone I know says it is enuff to get anyone a buzz?

    Plus you get at least most of the omega and phytonutrients of the plant, we just have to import it or get it from the official government farms that sell their dope to the Amsterdam crowd supposedly.

    (Hot issue man, this could be pasted into its own thread ifn’youz ax me)

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    TechKnomen on

    September 13, 2007
    10:26 am

    How about a article on “what should be done with the old freight station and the topic of eminent domain.

    The paper said they made the firm offer of 95,000 for the property and I heard that they may move the historical building with, some say, bulett holes from the Rowan Co War. How much will it cost to move the passenger station?

    “They” wanted to tear that down too but I guess there was some resistance?

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    pseudonomen on

    September 13, 2007
    3:48 pm

    Well it is evident from older photographs that the Freight Station was built long before the brick Passenger Depot. So if they plan on moving and perhaps restoring the old Freight Station, how much money could be gained to lay some track to pull an engine and couple of cars onto once in a while, like during festivals and the likes?

    With the Freight Station (the old Passenger Depot), being moved to another location, I don’t see what great loss there would be from tearing down the newer brick building.

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    pseudonomen on

    September 13, 2007
    4:34 pm

    On the (required) nick thing, I’m not a bit more offended than I would be offended by a gift of ten pounds of gold. Pseudonomen was actually inspired and derived from your nick and writings, Pseudonomen actually means simply that I will not be restricted to a given name, and serves as a reminder that others shouldn’t be subjected to those restrictions either. We can become whomever we choose as far as names and subject matter goes, only as long as we aren’t impersonating another to the point and extent of becoming an impostor or doing so for other malicious purposes.

    But the point of that post above is as simple as you have the basic human right to be known only as Tech or any other nick you choose for yourself without your real name being plastered all over the internet.

    Some folks could care less about sharing their true identity over the internet, but I see that as irresponsible in todays world of internet stalkers and the likes thereof. As you pointed out to another member in another post, there are internet stalkers and identity thieves that will use every little peace of information that we type onto the web to build “Identity Profiles”.

    But in short yes, psuedonomen was inspired by TechKnomen for what it is worth.

    Im not real sure waht you mean by “…and rumor has it he even has friends (and sympathisers)” but a TechKnomen is who got me started blogging in the first place, so I think “friend” would be the right word, or in any event, despite the misunderstandings that we have had mostly due to packet errors, that we could call one another friends. I mean it’s not like I’m out to get you or like your out to get me or anything. At least in real life we both have members in common within our circles of friends.

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    pseudonomen on

    September 13, 2007
    4:47 pm

    So just to be clear about this, and not to cause any misunderstandings by my act of doing something stupid without first asking;

    Are you suggesting that I should start a new article about industrial hemp v.s. marijuana?

    I’d gladly do so if thats what you are suggesting.

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    pseudonomen on

    September 13, 2007
    4:51 pm

    Let me rephrase that;

    So just to be clear about this, and not to cause any misunderstandings by my act of doing something stupid by starting a new article without first asking you if I understand correctly;

    Are you suggesting that I should start a new article about industrial hemp v.s. marijuana?

    I’d gladly do so if thats what you are suggesting.

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    TechKnomen on

    September 13, 2007
    5:23 pm

    Yeah this thread has gotton off on this topic (mainly due to me)

    and I guess technically it would not work to post a article and link to this thread?

    or paste the pertainent posts over with a reference that it came from here?

    I was also suggesting a article separately for the Emenient Domain (95K take it or leave it)to be used to seize the Freight Station for parking for the (University’s?) Morehead Conference Center.

    How about another Cross walk like by the middle school over to much bigger parking lot accross the bypass?

    In Mt Sterling they had loooong ramps instead of elevators that need maintenance and upkeep and ‘lectric

    Dont get me wrong I have no affiliation with the owners of that property but if the guy dosent want the offer is emminent domain justified for a parking lot?

    Does a parking lot have the potential to generate more tax re-venue than a liquor stoe’?

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    TechKnomen on

    September 13, 2007
    5:28 pm

    Oh and thanks for those words on identity theifs

    Thats about how I’d put it. Why take unnecessary risks or let it be done without protest?

    Rememeber NBC cares becareful what you post…

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    nighthawk on

    February 7, 2008
    4:28 pm

    It took me a while to dig this article out of the archives, but I have a question and wanted it to go in the right place;

    I keep seeing and hearing advertisements for this hempUSA website, and seen some coffee there that I’d like to try out. Only trouble is, It’s rather highly priced…

    So I was wondering…
    Is there any stores within 60 miles or so that carry those products, and maybe at lesser prices?

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    nighthawk on

    February 7, 2008
    4:37 pm

    Actually this might be the wrong article too. I thought there was a “Hemp - A Viable Resource” article on here.

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    TechKnomen on

    February 7, 2008
    5:53 pm

    “Washed”(thc washed out?) DEA allowed hemp seed and oil is available from “Good Foods Co-op” southland drive Lexingtion or
    Roberts Healthfood may have some in East Land Center or
    Wild Oats in Lexington Green off Nicholasville has some too.

    Omega 3 oil is SERIOUSLY lacking in the American Diet and on the decline since Crisco was given away in the Depression.

    Walnuts, Sardines, Hempseed and most non farm raised coldwater fish has this esential fatty acid that we have to have to avoid dementia and even psoriiciss, infamitory disorders caused by the double whammy of the 2lowest diet in omega3 in the world and the highest diets of hydrogenated and whatever is cheepest oils this week at the factory, corn and or cotton seed and or soybean and or ?
    Polyunsatured oils are not that great. Grain feed beef, farm fish, and omega 6 overload leads to all sorts of inflamitory diseases and sticky sick insulin resistance cell walls BUT ITS GOOD FER BIG PHARMA STOCKS EH???

    Our brains have THC receptors but it is the Devil’s weed haaaaaaawwwwwuhh! can I git a amen?

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    nighthawk on

    February 7, 2008
    6:05 pm

    Will a “thank you” work instead?

    I appreciate the info there.
    That hempUSA website is sorta informative, but the prices look a little steep, plus I have to wait for delivery.

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    Kat on

    February 28, 2008
    8:08 pm

    Ok, that was a cute comeback with the Michael Jackson’s Sleeping Chamber. Do you know that thousands of people have paid to literally have just their heads frozen to be ‘revived’ in the future when technology becomes available? Now that’s weird. Some are having their entire bodies frozen. Some people should have themselves frozen now! LOL With all the chronic illness I could be frozen before I die from them. My luck, I’d be brought back to life as Rosie O’Donnell! YIKES! Anyway, good thought. Where in the world, or should I say, Morehead, are you legally getting hemp to take internally? That I’ve never heard of using except for cancer patients. The Omega 3’s are the best. Also FRESH Royal Honey, the Queen’s Nectar from a company called “BEE-ALIVE”, is wonderful. It is one of the few things that helps with the pain of the Fibromyalgia.

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    nighthawk on

    February 28, 2008
    9:41 pm

    THC free Hemp products are legal in KY now.

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    nighthawk on

    February 28, 2008
    9:43 pm

    That is to say that Hemp products that contain little of NO THC are legal.
    It’s in the Hemp thread I think.

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    nighthawk on

    February 28, 2008
    9:50 pm

    You could try http://hempusa.org/ but it cost much, much less if you want to drive to Lexington.
    Still can’t find the right thread the information is in.

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    enforced voluntary compliance on

    February 29, 2008
    12:20 am

    I wood poot thez on the fun stuf thred but dope (really strong female canabis sativa l)

    is not always fun. Smokers find it entertaining to see a newby get all paranoid and even the CIA has assesed it useing our tax dollars, as a way to make spy types talkitive, so it aint always fun stuff. I do theorise that is is a useful herb for a whole range of heathly reasons. The chinese use it 4000 bleeping years ago for extreme morning sickness of the kind that has almost KILLED many ameriKan womyn but the western medical mind is BRAINWASHED against it in favor of some much more receint BREATHENE? cancer pill that costs the earth, like $70buck per pill in stead of something that can be grown by those that are so inept they cant remember to water the tomatoes? F*#$%@# bleeped up country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Makes me wanna puke!
    Let me say this as a devout bible thumper BTW !
    Man have you evar wished you were NOT corrrect about some things?
    Still refusing to wipe the dust of this place off my shoes, however. Sad haint it?

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